All Things Go Podcast

[00:00] Travis: This episode is sponsored by Baduk Pop and SmartGo One.

Back to a Solo Unscripted Episode

[00:27] Travis: Hey, everybody,

[00:28] Travis: it’s time to get us started for the episode. Another unscripted episode.

[00:34] Travis: I feel like I actually haven’t done a just straight up unscripted episode in a few weeks. Given the interview with my dad last week that was actually really fun to do.

[00:44] Travis: I knew it was gonna be a good conversation in the sense of he is just somebody that’s very articulate, I think about just describing things. He’s very good with words.

[00:55] Travis: He was really helpful when I was coming up as a kid and things because he really helped me understand,

[01:02] Travis: like, just how to think about what thoughts are coming through my head, emotions, those sorts of things, and to kind of just talk it out.

[01:09] Travis: I’m very much a talker in terms of processing.

[01:14] Travis: And so,

[01:15] Travis: yeah, that conversation was a lot of fun. Hopefully you enjoyed it.

[01:20] Travis: If you didn’t, I totally respect that.

[01:24] Travis: Um, but yeah, we’re back with an unscripted episode without any interviews, without any guests today.

Teaching Games and Playing Stronger Opponents

[01:32] Travis: And I’ve been doing more of the teaching games on OGS in a correspondence format and more of the receiving and more of the giving. So a couple with some folks with whom I’ve met through the podcast that are more in like the 18, 19, 20, or even beginner level or kyu range.

[01:56] Travis: So that’s been really fun. Just been nice,

[01:59] Travis: I guess you could say give back, but just, yeah, nice to try to help on the things I know, but very much if there are things I don’t understand, just say, hey, I don’t know.

[02:10] Travis: And then on the receiving end,

[02:12] Travis: some,

[02:13] Travis: you know, people in the Go community, some kind of, you know, acquaintances, friends, have been really nice to keep playing with me.

[02:21] Travis: And it is, I just want to say, like continues to feel very different. Like, it feels like I’m playing such a different game from compared to what I’m playing.

[02:32] Travis: People of a similar ish rank to me online, it’s incredible. So I’m playing one person who I think is at is considered a 2 dan on OGS, but again, I don’t know how updated and fresh that is.

A Game Review from Strugglebus Go

[02:46] Travis: Another person, it’s like a 3 kyu Gabe from Strugglebus Go,

[02:52] Travis: the YouTube channel,

[02:54] Travis: is somebody with whom, you know, we. We connect occasionally and is a great guy. And I reached out to him and I just said, hey, you know, are you.

[03:05] Travis: Are you willing to play a game? And he was willing to do that,

[03:10] Travis: which was really nice because I know he’s kind of in study mode right now for the Go Congress in Boston, Massachusetts, in The us.

[03:20] Travis: But yeah, so we played a game and he was nice enough to take that and review it and put it on his YouTube channel.

[03:28] Travis: So I very much appreciated that. That was unexpected.

[03:32] Travis: So thank you, Gabe, and also thanks for the shout out for the show.

[03:37] Travis: So we did that.

[03:38] Travis: And he’ll probably tell you this, or he would tell you this if you spoke to him. I feel like I’m getting psyched out in some of the teaching games, so I find myself kind of tripping myself up and getting a little bit caught up in the level of player I’m playing.

[03:58] Travis: Cause it’s a teaching game. And so I will second guess myself even more than I normally do. And that’s been interesting.

[04:07] Travis: Sometimes the person with whom I’m playing, they’re like, hey, why did you play this? This seems like a very safe move.

[04:13] Travis: Or why do you play that?

[04:15] Travis: And if they play a move that looks too good to be true, I’m kind of thinking, well, all right, I’m reading it out a little bit, or sometimes I’m not, but if I’m reading it, I’m like, well, this.

[04:24] Travis: This looks too good to be true. Like, are they messing with me?

[04:28] Travis: Well, the short answer is like, yeah, they might be not. They’re not trying to mess with me,

[04:32] Travis: but they might be trying to give me sort of like a test move, right? They. They might be trying to have me learn something at that moment in the game.

[04:41] Travis: So that’s where I get a little tripped up. But I’m trying to block that out. It’s just a lot of it, I think, is subconscious,

[04:48] Travis: to be completely honest.

[04:51] Travis: So that continues. I’ve been playing some of the teaching games.

[04:55] Travis: Some of them have resumed because one of the people with whom I was playing was away on vacation for a little bit. And so that’s been great. And I’ve been really appreciative because I think that is how you grow.

[05:07] Travis: So that’s cool.

Commentating the San Diego Go Championship

[05:09] Travis: The other thing I did want to mention on Gabe at Strugglebus Go is that we are actually going to be connecting soon because we were reached out to by the.

[05:22] Travis: I think it was the president of the Go Club in San Diego, California, in the US and they were looking to have some folks do commentary for the opening round of that championship.

[05:36] Travis: So I was invited and Gabe from Strugglebus Go was invited. So I’m really excited. That’ll be a lot of fun.

[05:46] Travis: And I was able to do an event with Justin from the Star Point podcast back, I think, in November of last year. And that was a really good time too. I It’s so funny how I thought there would have been a challenge of coming up with things to talk about in like the.

[06:04] Travis: I think it was two hours or three hours that we were on, but it was not a problem at all. There were so many things happening all at once that it was really not a challenge.

[06:15] Travis: So that’s coming up. That’s going to be on May 23, which is a Saturday.

[06:22] Travis: So if anybody is remotely interested in attending that,

[06:26] Travis: please do. I think it’s honestly going to be better more for folks that are newer to the game and haven’t really done much with the game yet. I think at least on my side, given my rank, I’m going to be really focusing more on just like helping people who might be stopping in to watch the game.

[06:44] Travis: Like, hey, what is this game? How. What are the basic rules? How does it work?

[06:48] Travis: And you know, Gabe, being a,

[06:50] Travis: you know, a higher ranking player will will also try to help with understanding a little bit more at an advanced level. But in any case neither of us are dan level so.

[07:02] Travis: But no, it’ll be a lot of fun. I’m really excited to do that.

A Possible Collaboration with Star Point

[07:06] Travis: What are some other things that are actually kind of in the hopper, so to speak for the podcast?

[07:13] Travis: Well, I was able to connect with Justin at Star Point and somebody had suggested, I think the username on Discord is Solara.

[07:25] Travis: So I think Solara suggested hey, it would be really fun. I think this was at the end of last year.

[07:31] Travis: It’d be really fun if you and Justin or Justin and Travis could do like a episode where you both talk about,

[07:40] Travis: you know, what it’s like being doing a podcast on Go.

[07:44] Travis: So I think it’s a cool idea. It’s funny, when I was releasing the last season, season four of episodes which are again primarily, you know, interviews.

[07:57] Travis: One thing I was talking with my wife about at the when I was about to release it or about to finish it up was that I was like, oh, you know, would it be at all enjoyable for people to just hear what it’s been like for someone like me?

[08:12] Travis: Doesn’t matter. That’s me in particular to just do this kind of thing, right? Do a podcast.

[08:18] Travis: What has come up, those kinds of things. And I mention it here and there in the podcast in various episodes, but only in just really small bits and pieces.

[08:27] Travis: But I ended up not doing that.

[08:31] Travis: I think the in talking with my wife about it, we kind of agreed that it just sound a little bit too kind of self aggrandizing. It’s Just, you know,

[08:43] Travis: you know, we’re doing these things as passion projects, just like so many people in the Go community are doing it because they care about it. It’s not for any sort of sense of ego or anything like that.

[08:54] Travis: So I just felt like at the time it just felt like there would have been too much focus or it would have made it seem like there was too much focus on me.

[09:03] Travis: But if it’s me and Justin and we’re asking each other,

[09:08] Travis: it feels just a bit more possibly appropriate. So I connected, I reached out to Justin and he sounds, you know, open to the idea of doing something, whether it’s that idea or something else.

[09:19] Travis: So stay tuned.

[09:22] Travis: I do also think it’s important to not have too much cross pollination,

[09:30] Travis: I guess with any one other source out there in the Western Go community or in the English-speaking Go community. I mean, obviously I’ve interviewed plenty of people that are in this community, but I try to only connect with them a few times, if that on the show with only a few exceptions.

[09:50] Travis: And because we are both podcasts, Justin’s, you know, star point and mine just feels like a bit too close, whoever the other person would be for a podcast to just be doing,

[10:03] Travis: you know, a whole lot of things together. Because then I think you’re, you know, if, if you’re listening, you want to have hopefully a little bit of variety between your podcasts.

[10:13] Travis: So that’s the only reason, honestly, no other reason.

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Upcoming Interview Possibilities

[11:00] Travis: So some other people I’ve been looking to interview and hopefully will soon is,

[11:07] Travis: and I might be mispronouncing this Jonas Welticke,

[11:11] Travis: the I think current German amateur Go champion and he has his sort of online dojo where he’s doing these like spatial memory workshops and I think one is going on actually right now.

[11:28] Travis: So there may still be slots or may not be,

[11:31] Travis: but I know he’s doing several of them so check it out. But um, sounds very interesting. I mean his story I saw on Go Magic. His. His mini lecture about thinking about visualizing and remembering the position on the board and that helping with you being a better Go player.

[11:49] Travis: And it’s interesting. Like, I’m. I’m really curious about it. So I reached out to Jonas, and we are currently trying to find a time to just sit down and have a more thorough conversation.

[12:00] Travis: So that could be something.

[12:03] Travis: Manja Marz, the new EGF president,

[12:07] Travis: which is the European Go Federation,

[12:11] Travis: has been really nice. We’ve been connecting about having a conversation.

[12:16] Travis: She did just have an interview, which I wasn’t aware of, with Go Magic,

[12:22] Travis: that just released, I think, like a day or two ago,

[12:25] Travis: just kind of going through her story, her role as. As a Go player, as, you know, the new president,

[12:32] Travis: which is a huge role. Congratulations to her.

[12:36] Travis: So we probably won’t be doing a conversation about all of that.

[12:42] Travis: I don’t want it to be redundant in that sense.

[12:47] Travis: But she is running this experiment with some European Go professionals around. I think it’s the study of brain activity and playing Go. And so I did just reach out to her and say, hey, you know, maybe we could connect when that’s over and just see if you have any form of results or talk about the experiment.

[13:11] Travis: How did it go? I think that would be really interesting.

[13:15] Travis: So.

[13:16] Travis: So that could be happening, which is great.

[13:18] Travis: In the coming weeks or months. I’m not sure when they’ll be done with that whole thing.

[13:24] Travis: So that’s what is happening so far with interviews, but beyond that right now, that’s kind of it.

[13:30] Travis: I interviewed Rémi Coulom the other day, and that episode released, as well as Chimin Oh. On some of his work for his anthropological study,

[13:41] Travis: which is great. I’m gonna try to do that. Right. I’m gonna try to pepper in more curated, more edited,

[13:49] Travis: concise interviews when I get the opportunity. And also, frankly, like, when there is something that seems interesting. Right. Like,

[13:58] Travis: that’s kind of the whole point here, right. I’m trying to find things that seem of interest,

[14:03] Travis: obviously, primarily to me, but hopefully it’s everybody else, so stay tuned on that.

[14:09] Travis: Like an episode or two ago, my voice is still a bit grumbly,

[14:14] Travis: and that’s just because where I am in the Northeast U. S. it’s just been crazy with allergies.

[14:21] Travis: And I learned something the other day. I was at work a day or two ago, and I went in and I was talking to a coworker, and they said, oh, yeah, I’ve just had.

[14:30] Travis: I said, how are you doing? And they said, oh, I. I’ve just had really bad allergies.

[14:34] Travis: And I was like, yeah, you know, I have too. I just feel it in my, my throat. I, I’m really congested, these kinds of things. And she said, oh,

[14:41] Travis: you know that you can also get bronchitis,

[14:44] Travis: like inflammatory inflammation of, you know, your bronchial tubes from allergies. And I was like, you know, that’s so interesting because I’ve been really coughing quite a bit and so that is likely what’s going on.

[14:58] Travis: But so my voice is a little bit gravelly.

[15:01] Travis: I appreciate your patience there for, for the podcast.

Playing Go with My Dad Again

[15:07] Travis: Another positive thing that came from my interview with my dad last week on Go and things related to Go is that he wants to pick back up connecting and playing the game together.

[15:20] Travis: So,

[15:21] Travis: you know,

[15:22] Travis: we’ll see if it’s wishful thinking. I know my dad wants to do a lot of things in life. He’s pretty busy at this point in his life, as am I.

[15:30] Travis: But I’m willing to try. So I’m going to give it a shot with him. Try to reach out to him at night times when my family is kind of down for the night and see if he wants to play, you know, just for a little bit.

[15:43] Travis: It’s a great way for me to connect with my dad and, and also play Go, which is cool. So we, we have a really good time kind of kibitzing and just playing a game live, but just talking through each move as we play it, it just, it’s stimulating.

[15:57] Travis: I’m certainly some of the conclusions we come to are not always correct as, you know, relatively lower ranking players, but that’ll be fun. So hopefully that happens.

Ideas for a Local Bushido Screening

[16:09] Travis: Last week on Sunday, I got a chance to just take a break.

[16:15] Travis: My wife and I, you know, we got the two young kids and we gave each other some time off just to rest. The other person would, you know, watch the kids and then we would switch.

[16:27] Travis: And so I got to rest on Sunday and I had a good, I’d say seven, eight hours. It was incredible just to kind of do what I wanted, rest a little bit,

[16:37] Travis: hang out. And I went into,

[16:40] Travis: into the town of Princeton, which is where Princeton University is.

[16:44] Travis: And it’s a beautiful town. That’s kind of where I grew up.

[16:48] Travis: And I just started having these fun ideas. I was like, oh,

[16:53] Travis: you know, there’s that new movie that I discussed in one of the unscripted episodes about the Japanese samurai. It’s called Bushido.

[17:03] Travis: And I think, gosh, you know,

[17:05] Travis: the. Some folks in the Princeton Go community did a screening,

[17:10] Travis: I think a couple Years ago at this point of the AlphaGo documentary at that library,

[17:17] Travis: at the public library in Princeton. And it was really great. It was well attended. There are a lot of people. It was just a lot of fun.

[17:23] Travis: I can’t remember who organized it originally, but it was great. And so I was looking, I was like,

[17:30] Travis: you know, maybe it would be really fun to have a screening of that movie, which I think comes out in May.

[17:38] Travis: And,

[17:39] Travis: you know, the challenge is I’m not sure if there’s enough local interest.

[17:44] Travis: I’ll try to do some more outreach to any Go players in, in this general region.

[17:50] Travis: I actually reached out to Alexander Qi, who is,

[17:53] Travis: as some of you know, he’s an American or a North American pro who is about to go into college. And I think he wants to go to Princeton University. I’m not sure if he is going,

[18:03] Travis: but I know he lives not terribly far. I think he lives in New Jersey somewhere. So I reached out to him too, to see if he’d have any interest in attending if we were able to get, you know, a good, a good showing.

[18:15] Travis: Cause,

[18:16] Travis: yeah, he’s an impressive guy. I mean, what he’s accomplished in so far in the Go world has been of note, at least, you know, from a Western perspective. So we’ll see what happens there.

[18:29] Travis: Maybe nothing happens, but you never know.

Birthday Go Plans

[18:32] Travis: Next week is my birthday,

[18:36] Travis: which I can’t believe I’m announcing on a podcast, but I think it’s because again,

[18:40] Travis: I’m a person that doesn’t really want people to know it’s my birthday until afterwards, just because I think, like a lot of us, we don’t love the attention, but it’s my birthday next week and it’s on Wednesday.

[18:53] Travis: And as a result, I have decided to, you know, take the day off just to use it as a way to again, kind of decompress,

[19:03] Travis: relax, get some exercise, take care of my body and also hopefully do something Go related. And I connected with my,

[19:10] Travis: my Go friend Adam,

[19:12] Travis: who’s in the area and he might be available.

[19:15] Travis: So we might get a.

[19:17] Travis: That second chance to play again after we try to back in March. And if you remember, he was either suffering from allergies or, or some sickness and last minute we couldn’t meet.

[19:30] Travis: So that would be really fun. So hopefully that will be happening. That would be so nice. It would be ideal if it were just a nice day, like a beautiful day in a town like Princeton, which is just really.

[19:42] Travis: It’s a college town. For those who don’t know, it’s this beautiful college Campus,

[19:48] Travis: excuse me, college campus. So whether we play there or somewhere else, like in a coffee house or something like that, it’d be really,

[19:55] Travis: really fun.

[19:57] Travis: So stay tuned on that.

Recent Posts and Events from r/baduk

[20:00] Travis: Let’s go to Reddit and see if anything of note has been going on in the past few weeks because I haven’t really looked at it in a while.

[20:10] Travis: So as I mentioned, Manja Marz, again 4 dan, but she’s also the European Go Federation president.

[20:18] Travis: That interview with Go Magic is on there,

[20:22] Travis: so I’m definitely gonna check it out. That’s really exciting.

[20:25] Travis: And then it looks like,

[20:29] Travis: it looks like there’s this event again in Poland for the. The Salt Mine Open and a chance to play against Mateusz Surma,

[20:40] Travis: a European pro,

[20:42] Travis: which really looks like a fun event. I saw it a couple years ago and it looks really cool what they’re doing because they’re trying to cover accommodation, meals and what a unique setting to play Go down in these salt mines and the history and things like that.

[20:58] Travis: So I’m not able to go, unfortunately,

[21:01] Travis: just with how my availability is right now. But definitely check that out. It looks really cool.

[21:07] Travis: And then there’s just. There is this Canadian summer Go camp. I’ve also been seeing the one. Excuse me. I’ve also been seeing the Go camp in Japan as well and I know someone with whom I play locally actually was able to attend that one too.

[21:23] Travis: So I, I love this concept of Go camps. I mean I.

[21:27] Travis: It would be really fun to have something more local, at least to me than Canada. But I’m curious what people’s reactions have been how they liked the Go camps. It sounds like the one in Canada is for all ages, but yeah, that sounds really fun.

[21:43] Travis: I remember talking with Devin Fraze who’s a big, you know, organizer, Baduk Club.

[21:48] Travis: He also does a lot of tournament directing and he would talk about some really great setups that he has seen. Um, you could find that in one of my older seasons,

[21:58] Travis: but that’s something.

[22:02] Travis: Yeah, I see Philippe Fenero, if I’m pronouncing that correctly, from Brazil,

Improvement Speed and Rating Fluctuations

[22:07] Travis: released a YouTube video doing some single-digit kyu private review lessons, which is great.

[22:15] Travis: Um,

[22:16] Travis: Philippe is actually somebody who I would love to interview.

[22:19] Travis: I think a few of you have mentioned in previous seasons, like it’d be great to hear from him and he seems to have really a fascinating background with his work with the Nihon Ki-in.

[22:30] Travis: And yeah, just, you know, he’s obviously a very high level player too, so would be really fun to connect with him. So stay tuned. That might be something that we could make happen.

[22:43] Travis: There’s a new an April 2026 newsletter for the European Go Journal, which is exciting.

[22:50] Travis: Can’t believe they’ve been around for five years.

[22:53] Travis: What a great contribution to the Go community there with Artem and his team.

[23:00] Travis: So that’s great.

[23:02] Travis: There was a fun question from a cinc rhizome. I’m probably pronouncing it completely wrong.

[23:10] Travis: cinkrisom a few days ago where he said, how did you get to 10 kyu? That was just fun to read, fun to see how people talk about getting to these levels.

[23:23] Travis: Some people shot through it. I mean, like Gabe from Strugglebus Go. I mean, he just played a ton of games for about a solid year or so, I guess, and then he was.

[23:38] Travis: Went past 10 kyu.

[23:40] Travis: It’s funny for me, it’s like I started back in 2022, I think was when I first played an actual game with a human online.

[23:49] Travis: It would have been something like January or February of 22.

[23:54] Travis: And then I was probably something like an 18 kyu or something like that on the Online Go Server, because that’s what I use primarily.

[24:03] Travis: And yeah, I mean, you go to today and I’m at something like 10 kyu again. The rankings system on OGS, I’ve been told, can be a bit tricky and a bit challenging to get accurately because of the different time formats and everything.

[24:20] Travis: But yeah, so, I mean, it’s been a.

[24:23] Travis: It feels like it’s been a slow.

[24:25] Travis: A slow improvement. I mean, I’ve only played about 309 games, right. Compared to a lot of people I’m playing against. I. I’ve played literally thousands of games online. But yeah, it’s.

[24:37] Travis: It’s been slow and steady for me. Just again, the amount of time I have,

[24:41] Travis: work,

[24:42] Travis: family, all those commitments,

[24:45] Travis: just. I don’t have the sheer volume of time.

[24:47] Travis: Um, and I know some people are super impressive and they.

[24:50] Travis: Even with little time, they improve dramatically, which is amazing. I’m super jealous of you if you were that person.

[24:59] Travis: But if you’re not,

[25:01] Travis: that’s also me. I’m also turning 40 years old, so I’m not exactly,

[25:08] Travis: you know, green and super young.

[25:11] Travis: So the synapses might be firing a little bit slower.

[25:15] Travis: How much that actually is true in reality, I don’t know. But I think I heard something that said that after age 35,

[25:22] Travis: they found that your brain matter,

[25:25] Travis: or a part of your brain matter starts to decrease gradually from age 35 onward, along with your muscle mass.

[25:32] Travis: So you have to really try to kind of fight Back against that with again doing things that are novel and different for your brain, like new habits or changing your habits or playing Go and having two different things in Go.

[25:49] Travis: Those things are really good for your brain.

[25:51] Travis: So if I needed an excuse to play more go, there’s my excuse.

More Questions from r/baduk

[25:57] Travis: Let’s see if we see any other noteworthy Reddit posts on our baduk.

[26:04] Travis: Again, there’s the Go camp in Japan.

[26:07] Travis: That looks fun.

[26:09] Travis: I wish I could go to Japan.

[26:11] Travis: My in laws are going to Japan. I’m very jealous of them. I’m excited for them. So I hope it’s a good time.

[26:17] Travis: Hmm. Somebody asked an interesting question. Does Japanese scoring promote more passive play?

[26:22] Travis: And it looks like they’re asking that in Japanese scoring. They’d feel much more afraid of trying to do raw invasions because it doesn’t.

[26:31] Travis: Because if they don’t pull it off, they’d lose a lot more than in Chinese scoring.

[26:36] Travis: But my understanding here, and it looks like people have answered it, is that when it comes to,

[26:44] Travis: when it comes to I don’t know if the scoring matters but I mean effectively I think it’s, it’s kind of almost a net similar result. It’s like if you play,

[26:52] Travis: if you’re playing and each the other opponent is way ahead and they have a huge moyo or something or area you are if the territory is already formed and you try to invade and there’s a chance of you living, there’s really no reason not to because at very worst,

[27:09] Travis: right, those points get counted as prisoners but you’re kind of no,

[27:13] Travis: no worse off if they keep responding to your move. So you put a piece in in the territory, they respond.

[27:20] Travis: That kind of neutralizes the point change.

[27:24] Travis: The only time I would think it would really matter is if you’re invading. But then there hasn’t really been full on. It’s not the end game, it’s maybe in the mid game and there are still areas of strength that have not been developed yet.

[27:38] Travis: And so you could absolutely give your opponent a ton of strength, right, by trying to invade and then they’re just trying to block you and close you in the whole time.

[27:46] Travis: But it looks like people are agreeing like P. W. seagull, who’s a 4 dan that it’s not really,

[27:56] Travis: it’s not really a thing. It’s not like you would. It’s not more passive.

[28:00] Travis: So that’s interesting.

[28:02] Travis: And then I know that the real the American Go association rules are effectively kind of one big amalgam. It’s like it functions the same way as Chinese and Japanese function and the main way it’s different from Japanese is that white has to be the last person to play.

[28:19] Travis: So if black is the last one to truly play then white would pass. And when you pass in the AGA rules you have to give a stone just to again kind of neutralize it out.

[28:31] Travis: So that sounds like the only real difference.

[28:36] Travis: So I think that’s where we will stop for the episode. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great week,

[28:42] Travis: go play some Go, think about Go, all those fun things and catch you next time.

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[28:58] Travis: On a final note, I just want to thank again our sponsors for the episode. SmartGo One is your all in one Go toolkit for iPhone, iPad and Mac. Whether you’re replaying games, solving problems or managing your SGF files,

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